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bill clinton, number 50. no hillary clinton or not list. way down at number 65, below the colombian drug deale erdealer, . boehner. boehner that low? >> it's remarkable. there is some subjectivity that goes with this but i think that's very interesting. the other folks that you mentioned. bloomberg fascinates me. >> bloomberg more power than bainer? really? >> i don't know about more power but think about the interesting position that bloomberg's in. he's got a year left on this third term that he has figured out a way to have. he's a publisher. he's a 15th richest guy -- most powerful guy on our list, one of the richest men in the world. >> and a quick thought on ilan musk -- we've heard his name but he doesn't get a lot of attention. why is he in the top 70? >> when you think about the entrepreneurial ethos that forbes tries to represent, the people, places and companies that we try to describe an entrepreneurs in particular, here's a guy who founded paypal. here's a guy who's at the front of the tesla automobile. he's now moving cargo th
bill clinton, number 50. no hillary clinton or not list. way down at number 65, below the colombian drug deale erdealer, . boehner. boehner that low? >> it's remarkable. there is some subjectivity that goes with this but i think that's very interesting. the other folks that you mentioned. bloomberg fascinates me. >> bloomberg more power than bainer? really? >> i don't know about more power but think about the interesting position that bloomberg's in. he's got a year left on...
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they allow the marginal rates on earned income to go back to the clinton levels. in that proposal, as i understand it, dividends and cap gains rise modestly to 20%. i think anybody that's looked that the will tell you the mix of rates and deductions and tax treatment of dividends, capital gains now is unaffordable for the country. the current mix we have in current policy is unaffordable. we're going to have to alter that mix. we've laid out the best way we think to do that. if we did that, i think you'd see alongside sensible spending reforms. you'd see very good outcomes for the american economy. the american economy right now looks very resilient. the biggest thing that stands in the way of much significant strength in growth is this uncertainty about how to reach an agreement. >> what's the right rate for dividends and capital gains? >> in the senate bill, you see there's a proposal to let them go to 20. that's certainly one way to do it. ultimately, you have to look at the overall mix of tax treatment, investment income -- >> is there a number that's too high
they allow the marginal rates on earned income to go back to the clinton levels. in that proposal, as i understand it, dividends and cap gains rise modestly to 20%. i think anybody that's looked that the will tell you the mix of rates and deductions and tax treatment of dividends, capital gains now is unaffordable for the country. the current mix we have in current policy is unaffordable. we're going to have to alter that mix. we've laid out the best way we think to do that. if we did that, i...
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. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> but tyler, as you suggested, this is all a work in progress. the thing we cannot see that is not visible to the public or to the press is what's going on behind the scenes. staff discussions resumed yesterday. don't know how fruitful. i haven't gotten much of a signal from people on either side that a deal is close, but they're work rg at it and sometimes these situations can tur
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they may finds a compromise that isn't necessarily clinton era tax rates, something in between. but it looks like the makings of a deal. with every change on the republican side, more and more likely to happen than not. >> all right. we'll see about that. we'll be watching. obviously, very, very important for the markets. thanks. see you later. >>> let's get to bertha coombs. one company with big moves after the bell. over to you. >> maria, amarin is falling after the bell. some had suspected them to solicit a bid to buy itself out. it has a drug that's a fish oil drug that's prescription. they say they're hiring a sales staff and they still expect to present more details to the fda in february 2013. some disappointment, clearly, there. maria. >> thanks so much, bertha. we'll keep watching that. >>> up next, the stock market and america. steve liesman up next with surprising new results from the exclusive cnbc survey. >>> and then as the lawsuits fly over hewlett-packard's autonomy mess, i'll talk with the ceo of deloitte and their role in looking over the books. ally bank. why
they may finds a compromise that isn't necessarily clinton era tax rates, something in between. but it looks like the makings of a deal. with every change on the republican side, more and more likely to happen than not. >> all right. we'll see about that. we'll be watching. obviously, very, very important for the markets. thanks. see you later. >>> let's get to bertha coombs. one company with big moves after the bell. over to you. >> maria, amarin is falling after the bell....
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we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts
we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight...
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to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, depending on where you stand, the idea that we just get rid of congressional approval of the debt ceiling at all, which is that ludicrous proposal that was in the president's plan. that's not -- and would you really want that? woul
to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last...
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i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much more than mitt romney. we didn't blow it because of mitt romney. we blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of american life and refused to take -- to think through what the average american needs for a better future. >> but recall what you said about 1964. in december 1964, lyndon johnson was re-elected. goldwater was finished. it was the end of the republican party. and at the end, the republicans nominated a man named richard nixon. and he became president. unthinkable. >> so you can have a tcampaign between hillary clinton and jeb bush, representing 36 years of bushes on n
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it's a simple question, as president clinton said, of arithmetic. arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. >> so guys, that's where we are as of this morning, and now what everyone's waiting for is which side will make a concrete proposal here that actually includes some concessions? back to you. >> joining us from washington, d.c., jake sherman, congressional reporter for politico. who is going to make some honest concessions first? >> what eamon said is absolutely right. this comes down to one thing, whether republicans are willing to raise marginal income tax rates on americans. they're saying they're willing to raise revenue, but president obama has one criteria in this debate and that's raising income rates on all americans. right now, the sides are in their two corners on this and nobody is moving. so we're really only a couple weeks out and there's this huge gap, and eamon was right in another aspect. there is this brush fire of conservative lawmakers who don't want to raise revenue at all. so this is a huge problem for sp
it's a simple question, as president clinton said, of arithmetic. arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. >> so guys, that's where we are as of this morning, and now what everyone's waiting for is which side will make a concrete proposal here that actually includes some concessions? back to you. >> joining us from washington, d.c., jake sherman, congressional reporter for politico. who is going to make some honest concessions first? >> what...
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we'll talk with former republican senator it alan simpson, and clinton white house chief of staff, erskine bowles, who chaired the first deficit reduction commission. they're concerned about the dangers ahead. so concerned that simpson took to the dance floor to urge young people to get involved. we'll also get the take of rising democratic star cory booker, the mayor of newark. what's his answer to the washington gridlock? and is he planning a run for governor against chris christie. for analysis, we'll turn to joe klein of "time" magazine. "washington post" columnist michael gerson, and our own norah o'donnell and major garrett, our chief white house correspondent. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning, again. well, to the famous combos of modern life, from mac and cheese, peanut butter and jelly, rum and coke, bread and butter, and salt and pe pepper, add one more pair simpson-bowles. alan simpson may be in wyomingy and erskine bowles in north carolina but you can't m
we'll talk with former republican senator it alan simpson, and clinton white house chief of staff, erskine bowles, who chaired the first deficit reduction commission. they're concerned about the dangers ahead. so concerned that simpson took to the dance floor to urge young people to get involved. we'll also get the take of rising democratic star cory booker, the mayor of newark. what's his answer to the washington gridlock? and is he planning a run for governor against chris christie. for...
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four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion-dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen. washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the pretty about such a plan. >> speaker, you did speak with the pretsident earlier this wee. can you talk about that call? also we understand that he's making clear that it's got to be increasing rates for the wealthy or no deal
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. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him during our show, was there any movement of these weapons, because i agree with what nick said, they have been there, was there movement because it would be dangerous. i said no, not yet. movement i think implies that we are going to send aircraft into hit them. >> if he tries to use chemical weapons on his people it will do somethi something. >> i don't think we are being duped now. there is a big difference between now and 2003. >> i don't think we have any idea. they are not going to be helpful now. it is hard to see how they would advance his cause. he is clearly not a stupid man. >> if you
. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. heart healthy . step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? house garden and encourages we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bac >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made effo
michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. heart...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they shortened early voting periods. well, it didn't work. minority turnout remained steady from 2008, and in some states it increased, like ohio. some civil rights leaders say it was those attempts at voter suppression that drove voters out to vote even if it meant standing in line for hours. what is clear is the republican party has a deeper problem
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but if you remember, when the clinton tax cuts-- tax rates were imposed in 1993, martin felledsteen, you know, a very substantial economist, wrote an op-ed in the "with the journal" that day predicting we were going into a deep recession pause of the tax rates. we went into a big boom. we're tingering on the edges here of a massive economy. >> schieffer: michael? >> everybody knows the conversation needs to take place. speaker boehner calling the president saying i'll give some on rates. you have to give some on structural eltitlement reforms. the problem is, it's the president who sets the groundwork for that discussion. and right now republicans think the president's undermining that possible conversation by an unreasonable first setef demands, procedural changes that would make them irrelevant. the art of the deal involves giving people a soft place to land. and right now, republicans aren't seeing a soft place to land. their only option is humiliation in this process, and they're increasingly thinking that the president sees victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. >> but remem
but if you remember, when the clinton tax cuts-- tax rates were imposed in 1993, martin felledsteen, you know, a very substantial economist, wrote an op-ed in the "with the journal" that day predicting we were going into a deep recession pause of the tax rates. we went into a big boom. we're tingering on the edges here of a massive economy. >> schieffer: michael? >> everybody knows the conversation needs to take place. speaker boehner calling the president saying i'll give...
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i don't think that raising -- putting the tax rates back to the clinton level -- clinton era level is going to harm the economy. but if you could not raise taxes and you could make it up another way, i do think that's the better way to go. and, you know, i think the president is now appealing a little bit to the base on insisting on it has to be the tax rates, when he should be open to -- and maybe he will be -- this could just be a negotiating tactic, he should be open to the idea of closing loopholes eliminating deductions and making up the revenue in another way. stuart: i was right. >> you're very sensitive to drifting. stuart: i have never been described as sensitive before, but i do appreciate the compliment. i hope you will come again. will you? >> absolutely. >> stuart: thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: the california teachers union has sunk, and i'm going to say to a new low. a cartoon video about taxes and the rich, and it shows a rich person urinating on poor people. more on that next with mike reagan. stuart: president obama will not budge on rai
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the real core of what clinton had was they cut spending. their percentage of spending to gdp was so much less, and that's where they got out of it. that agreement in '97 cut taxes and cut spending, which spurred growth. and we need a pro-growth economy. that's how we're going to get out of this mess. what we're talking about today, of just raising the taxes, does not solve the problem. i don't see it passing the house. now, republicans have not sat back. we've put revenue on the table. but the president has always said it has to be a balanced approach. >> if you can choose, if you could choose, what's -- i mean we've heard -- we've heard from their side, from the other side, and i'm talking about from your viewpoint, secretary geithner. >> yes. >> has said, we -- if we don't get the 2% -- if we don't get the rise on rates on the 2% we'll go over the fiscal cliff. in your view would it be better to go over the fiscal cliff than to get the back to the clinton rates on the high end? >> i think the best thing we don't go over the fiscal cliff.
the real core of what clinton had was they cut spending. their percentage of spending to gdp was so much less, and that's where they got out of it. that agreement in '97 cut taxes and cut spending, which spurred growth. and we need a pro-growth economy. that's how we're going to get out of this mess. what we're talking about today, of just raising the taxes, does not solve the problem. i don't see it passing the house. now, republicans have not sat back. we've put revenue on the table. but the...
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when george bush beat al gore in the bitter campaign of 2000, oit going president clinton invited bush over for a two-hour session. but bush's meeting with al devoir, the man he beat, lasted only 15 minutes. brush said he had to get back to texas for a christmas party. when richard nixon beat hubert humphrey, there was a certain been there, done that, feeling when he invited humphrey of free to chat. >> i recall in 1960 after losing a very close election that president-elect kennedy could me when i was here in florida and history repeat itself. so i know exactly how you feel. >> thank you very much. >> schieffer: after beating bob dole in 1996, bill clinton invited dole to the white house for a ceremony honoring world war ii veterans. dole brought downtown house when he said, "i, robert j. dole..." ( laughter ) "do solemnly swear-- oops. ( laughter ) sorry, wrong speech. ( laughter ) but i had a dream... ( laughter ) that i would be here this historic week receiving something from the president. ( laughter ) but i thought it would be the front door key. ( laughter ) >> schieffer: our "
when george bush beat al gore in the bitter campaign of 2000, oit going president clinton invited bush over for a two-hour session. but bush's meeting with al devoir, the man he beat, lasted only 15 minutes. brush said he had to get back to texas for a christmas party. when richard nixon beat hubert humphrey, there was a certain been there, done that, feeling when he invited humphrey of free to chat. >> i recall in 1960 after losing a very close election that president-elect kennedy could...
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it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there. >> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty conflicted. that's the best that i have on what she's thinking. >> i've talk to some of the fundraisers and they are planning. i think she is going to run. she is exhausted now. she'll take a couple -- she may not know she is going to run although i suspect she kind of does. she will take a couple years. and at this point she would be a very, very formidable candidate. depending on what happens over the next four years. mario cuomo used to say between now and then, a pope will be born which means, who the hell knows what's going to happen? the second obama term could be a
it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there. >> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty...
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michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they
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today saying point blank, they do want a two step process for tax reform and raise the rates to the clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the feature and then maybe everyone can lower the rates at that time. it does seem like there is a lot of that going on. >> i think that the difference between what we are seeing now and in the past like this is you have the public posturing and by all accounts that is not happening right now. the fact that it is news, the president and the speciaker is amazing and it speaks to the conversations going on behind the scenes. democrats were saying for months and months, they realize that they have the leverage because at the end of the day, old tax rates are going to go up. they believe that republicans were going to say that they understand that they are losing the message war on this. he made a point to say it is not that they are not for raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> i spoke with george mitchell last night and i was about to say, in talking to them, it is like talking to adults, they are talking to people five or
today saying point blank, they do want a two step process for tax reform and raise the rates to the clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the feature and then maybe everyone can lower the rates at that time. it does seem like there is a lot of that going on. >> i think that the difference between what we are seeing now and in the past like this is you have the public posturing and by all accounts that is not happening right now. the fact that it is news,...
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>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that well-earned rest is only going to be a prelude to something else down the road and not -- >> we'll give her a little time to rest and then i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, congresswoman. >> and coming up next, why won't the president sit down with john boehner? more from that new interview with president obama, next. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request sou
>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that...
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and then could be bush versus clinton again. >> governor, thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> honor to be with you. >> right now it's time for "squawk on the street." ♪ >> good tuesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm melissa lee with carl quintanilla, jim cramer and david faber. we're live from post 9 at the new york stock exchange. a vacuum here in terms of u.s. economic data. none on top today. we're looking at a flat open across the board. as for europe, movement there. the buyback of greek debt will in fact work. we're seeing just fractions of a percent in terms of changes there. our road map this morning starts with the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house promptly rebuffs the gop counterproposal which calls for $800 billion in new tax revenue but without tax rate increases for the wealthy. could this tax issue deadlock the talks? >>> bank of america ceo warns the cliff must get stalled or the economy could be stifled well into 2014. >>> even more dividends pushed into 2012. coach, american eagle moving up and
and then could be bush versus clinton again. >> governor, thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> honor to be with you. >> right now it's time for "squawk on the street." ♪ >> good tuesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm melissa lee with carl quintanilla, jim cramer and david faber. we're live from post 9 at the new york stock exchange. a vacuum here in terms of u.s. economic data. none on top today. we're looking at a flat...
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president clinton did listen to him. and i'll tell you, i talked to bob rubin about that anecdote where clinton says you tell me a bunch of bond traders control the economy -- i'm paraphrasing -- and rubin said, yes, i am. i asked him about that once a couple years ago, and he said it was true. it wasn't as dramatic woodward made it out to be, but it did has happen. but you didn't get that out of geithner. you kind of don't think you'll get that out of lew. he's very much aligned intellectually with president obama particularly on the notion of fairnesses. you know, you talk to economistses. should we really be raising taxes now? no. hour hour tax increases, we're going to lose the deductions -- >> probably shouldn't be cutting that much. the economy is like in a very weird state right now, kind of like i think the notion is to grow it now, you know? and, you know, this guy doesn't see that. he sees raising taxes not as an economic efficiency so to speak, but as you know, you don't get a lot of tax revenues out of that,
president clinton did listen to him. and i'll tell you, i talked to bob rubin about that anecdote where clinton says you tell me a bunch of bond traders control the economy -- i'm paraphrasing -- and rubin said, yes, i am. i asked him about that once a couple years ago, and he said it was true. it wasn't as dramatic woodward made it out to be, but it did has happen. but you didn't get that out of geithner. you kind of don't think you'll get that out of lew. he's very much aligned intellectually...
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hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would have been unimaginable after the disastrous campaign, and let's be frank, internally it was a disastrous campaign in 2008, where she started out as the prohibitive front-runner and favorite. but now she is rehabilitated. there are second acts in america. she has had a second act and it has been terrific. >> i recall that prior to that election we were talking about hillary clinton and rudy giuliani as the candidates, prohibited the favorites. >> in that election i said neither one would be the nominee and that turned out to be the k str
hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would...
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we always talk about the 1993 income tax of president clinton, and the top tax rate was 39.6%. threshold, $250 thud. so flash forward from 1993 to present, okay. well let me tell you something, there is this little thing called inflation. i know this might be nitpicking. but $250,000 today well, started out if you want to be apples to apples would be about $165,000 then. in other words, we are not adjusting even for inflation. so, if we're talking about $250,000 today being the same as then, we're wrong. it would be $165,000. so the point is, is that the difference between these two is $85,000. okay? is a 35% miss when it comes to being honest about it. oh, even worse let's take this. how many times, of course you've heard a million times, taxes on million favors and billionaires, even though, and i know this is adjusted, okay, but let's just keep it $250,000. well, 250 grand isn't a million. so it's off by 750-k over 1 million. okay? so, in essence, what we're doing is we're off on this one by 75%. we're off by 35% and 75%. so why am i doing this? because i'll tell you what, m
we always talk about the 1993 income tax of president clinton, and the top tax rate was 39.6%. threshold, $250 thud. so flash forward from 1993 to present, okay. well let me tell you something, there is this little thing called inflation. i know this might be nitpicking. but $250,000 today well, started out if you want to be apples to apples would be about $165,000 then. in other words, we are not adjusting even for inflation. so, if we're talking about $250,000 today being the same as then,...
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new reports that hillary clinton got a special job pitch. apparently so did david petraeus and neither one took the advice. new york city mayor michael bloomberg's successor will have big shoes to fill according to "the new york times." bloomberg called secretary of state hillary clinton a few months ago to encourage her to enter the 2013 new york city mayoral race. but reportedly told the mayor she has no interest in the job. as deputy mayor there howard wolf son, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's presidential campaign in 2008. mayor bloomberg isn't the only 0 one giving out advice. this is great. it's bob woodward, heads are exploding as i speak. let me get to the story. woodward reports that roger ales, the chairman and founder of fox news, encouraged general david petraeus to run against obama in the 2012 election. last spring asked fox news analyst to make the pitch while she was traveling with petraeus. in a recording of the conversation between mcfarland and petraeus mcfarland can be heard saying that ales advises petraeus to
new reports that hillary clinton got a special job pitch. apparently so did david petraeus and neither one took the advice. new york city mayor michael bloomberg's successor will have big shoes to fill according to "the new york times." bloomberg called secretary of state hillary clinton a few months ago to encourage her to enter the 2013 new york city mayoral race. but reportedly told the mayor she has no interest in the job. as deputy mayor there howard wolf son, former senior...
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in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes by 3.6% doesn't seem to hold water. we're in a different economy now. there aren't really mathematical formulas you can use to apply to it. it all depends on growth rates and growth rates often depend on confidence in the economy. so there are a few variables here that you can't account for. >> ali velshi, thank you. >> my pleasure. >>> internet security guru john mcafee in hiding wanted for questioning in belize in the death of his neighbor. martin savidge got the first on-camera interview with mcafee since he went on the run. an interview almost as bizarre
in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes...
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clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states in american history. >> there doesn't seem to be any democrats that could come close to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for "the daily beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the speculati
clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states...
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they met with george clinton and george w. bush but the piece is really coming to grips with the challenges of parenthood. quote, if tyler felt alienate and alone, it's because we failed to acknowledge and accept his difference. i was so fe focused on the conceit that my son would be like kevin costner's >> good answer. >> once rerealized that tyler was dealing with something bigger than ourselves,s asberger's syndrome. we were exploring one of the historical sites. the idea was to give him a place where he could practice what he had been learning in school about social clues and we were apt to spend more time with him. >> you must have wrestled with what to put in, what to take out. >> once i got back from these two very remarkable trips. my first draft was what you would expect out of me, it was a very political story. what i had learned from the presidents i had covered. i had a really good publisher, who sat me down in his office and said how did it make you feel when tyler looked at you at the white house and said i hope
they met with george clinton and george w. bush but the piece is really coming to grips with the challenges of parenthood. quote, if tyler felt alienate and alone, it's because we failed to acknowledge and accept his difference. i was so fe focused on the conceit that my son would be like kevin costner's >> good answer. >> once rerealized that tyler was dealing with something bigger than ourselves,s asberger's syndrome. we were exploring one of the historical sites. the idea was to...
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pat buchanan at the 1992 convention in houston saying, you know, it's clinton and clinton. this rad kl feminist lawyer. we always forget at the start of the 2008 cycle, obama was the underdog and he was going to lose. that was the conventional wisdom. clinton was the bigger front-runner and republicans treated her that way. they wanted to fight the clinton restoration. they were treating obama as this well-meaning, good-natured reformer who would get mowed down by the ruthless, vindictive clinton machine. i always remember the moment and late winter and early spring of 2008 when it became clear obama would beat her. suddenly the right conservatives, republicans saying she was a radical jane fonda suddenly rediscovered hillary clinton as a white working class hero. she was like franc rizzo all of a sudden. the story of the last four years for hillary clinton is republicans laid down for her, and democrats have started -- the democrats with obama and resented her then have gotten over t. the iraq thing is a distant memory. we thought she was the dwroefr whelming front-runner
pat buchanan at the 1992 convention in houston saying, you know, it's clinton and clinton. this rad kl feminist lawyer. we always forget at the start of the 2008 cycle, obama was the underdog and he was going to lose. that was the conventional wisdom. clinton was the bigger front-runner and republicans treated her that way. they wanted to fight the clinton restoration. they were treating obama as this well-meaning, good-natured reformer who would get mowed down by the ruthless, vindictive...
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hillary clinton is going to soon be stepping down from secretary of state. leon panetta does not plan to stay on for president obama. although there's fuzziness around that. and the nation needs a cia director post-david petraeus. now president obama may announce his pick for defense secretary within the next couple weeks and he may make it in a high-powered package announcement along with his choice for secretary of state. so all these jobs coming up, state, defense, cia, all will need to be confirmed by the senate and will be announced maybe at once and before christmas. maybe this is the time to have the debate about the way our national security is run. the debate we did not necessarily have before we started making big fundamental changes to that system that mostly just still get discussed behind closed doors. joining us now is senator claire mccaskill, chair of the support subcommittee. thank you for being here. >> it's great to be here. >> you and i have had a lot of interesting conversations over the years about national security. in part, because we
hillary clinton is going to soon be stepping down from secretary of state. leon panetta does not plan to stay on for president obama. although there's fuzziness around that. and the nation needs a cia director post-david petraeus. now president obama may announce his pick for defense secretary within the next couple weeks and he may make it in a high-powered package announcement along with his choice for secretary of state. so all these jobs coming up, state, defense, cia, all will need to be...
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the obvious, and that is if you're going to get revenues from the top 2%, we've got to go back to the clinton tax rates. down the road, maybe make adjustments, but right now hang in there. >> i think that is exactly right. certainly last year in the fiscal deficit negotiations, we were upset when he caved in the end of the day. this time he is sticking with it drawing the line in the sand. they are saying capital and income from capital should be taxed the same way we tax earned income. that is a fundamental in equity in our tax code. >> that's right. this country in its economy he has done well when we've had policies that have promoted middle class expansion. this is good for capital. franklin roosevelt for all of understanding, he said if you don't have a middle class that works, you won't have an economy for the rich. there's a narrow mindedness that i've got mine and i want more and i'm take it from you if that's what it takes. american economic policy works best when it's building a middle class. >> you go back to henry ford, who is no legal tarian at heart. he said if my workers can't
the obvious, and that is if you're going to get revenues from the top 2%, we've got to go back to the clinton tax rates. down the road, maybe make adjustments, but right now hang in there. >> i think that is exactly right. certainly last year in the fiscal deficit negotiations, we were upset when he caved in the end of the day. this time he is sticking with it drawing the line in the sand. they are saying capital and income from capital should be taxed the same way we tax earned income....
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bill clinton along others says said if there's a movie made by hillary clinton meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disantibiotics, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> that was a good line. kerry has been careful to stay clear of the public speculation about whom the president will actually pick to replace hillary clinton. >>> also, ads governor jan brewer, she's a heavyweight, in a comment about global warming. she doesn't think it's man made, but her own explanation for climate change is rather lacking. here is what she told a local reporter. >> everybody has an opinion on it, you know, and i probably don't believe it's manmade. i believe that, you know, weather and certain elements are controlled maybe by different thi
bill clinton along others says said if there's a movie made by hillary clinton meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disantibiotics, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr....
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bill clinton? who changed the rates again? george bush. they try to change the conversation by talking about revenue, you poor unwatched people don't understand the difference between rates and revenues. >> nina, bring us altogether please >> with a number of lobobbyists and the super pacs morphing into lobbyists, it will take quite some time, if it ever happens. we have to make that deal now and everybody understands that there is not some magic bullet. you have to d all. you have to raise revenue and you have to -- >> that is simply not true. >> it is troupe. it is if youou believeve at t this point. >> the simpson-bowles comommission said that every year you have $1.10 trillion, every year, in tax expditures >> and you get rid of the mortgage on the charity, right >> no, you cap it. you tell me that you cannot get $1rillion out of that? >> you won't take my life. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. an
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the clinton world is not sitting quietly, though. t "the new york times" kicked off what is likely to become a monthly exercise by somebody in the media. we may come up with a meter. probably throw in jeb in there, right? we should call it the hillary jebatron version 2016. probably jon stewart starting that up already. jodie cantor interviewed a number of clinton aides about future plans and strikingly a lot of them talked. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the state department, cantor makes a smart observation. she is a big constraint. the more serious she is about 2016 the less she can do. no frank, seen it all memoir, no clients, commissions that could prove problematic in the 2016 primaries or the general. instead cantor reports that secretary clinton is considering writing an upbeat look at her time as secretary of state. not a painful examination of her failed 2008 bid as she once proposed. likely to be quoted in a handful of clinton aides willing to go on the record with "the times" even when asked questions
the clinton world is not sitting quietly, though. t "the new york times" kicked off what is likely to become a monthly exercise by somebody in the media. we may come up with a meter. probably throw in jeb in there, right? we should call it the hillary jebatron version 2016. probably jon stewart starting that up already. jodie cantor interviewed a number of clinton aides about future plans and strikingly a lot of them talked. while clinton has dozens of options when she leaves the...
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they could have left it today with secretary clinton's statement. i think this was a very deliberate point that the president was making. he is fully engaged in this issue. clearly the president's been briefed, he's talking to his cabinet. we should assume that the united states military has continued the operations on the table fully prepared ready to go. there has been talk about the chemical weapons of syria for months, the military has had time to prepare. the administration has been clear, a military option is not where they want to have to go but i think the president's statement makes the point that they will go there if they have to, and i think that's the right message to send. we cannot permit syria to think using their chemical weapons and sarin gas stockpiles is an option for them. >> you make the important point that when the president gets involved, that's a calculated decision and every word he says is carefully reviewed. he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosec
they could have left it today with secretary clinton's statement. i think this was a very deliberate point that the president was making. he is fully engaged in this issue. clearly the president's been briefed, he's talking to his cabinet. we should assume that the united states military has continued the operations on the table fully prepared ready to go. there has been talk about the chemical weapons of syria for months, the military has had time to prepare. the administration has been clear,...